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If you have any questions for Michele, send them to advise@karateangels.com


DEAR READERS PLEASE TAKE NOTE: If you are looking for information on where and how to find coaches, agents and casting people you MUST include your location. (Outside of the USA please list the country, inside the USA please list the State.) If you take time to read others emails OR the articles I wrote for this site, you MAY find your question has been answered.

 


From: harold kelly
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 
To: advise@karateangels.com
Subject: Michele/ Davis Kelly !2 year old karate prodgy


Hello Michele,
I am sending information on my son Davis Kelly. he has been featured in two issues of Sports Illustrated and Time magazine. Please take the time to read information on Davis. What would be the chances for Davis to get a part in a movie? Please respond

Download and read
Harold 


Dear Harold,

Your son is a martial artist with a strong background and from what you have told me so far...no acting training. With that in mind, his chance are slim to none to getting a film part. He might get one or two small roles based on his tender age. He may get a few more talk shows too but if you want him to be taken seriously to do the acting parts...he has to be trained for that. No one would expect to go to a dojo and fight without training first!

Your child's information is very impressive but it does not mention acting. In fact you list his goals as MA and helping other kids realize their dreams. Nothing regarding acting was included in his goals or training.

We have all seen many athletes try to act and fail. Very few make it over to film and most who do, trained to act on top of their other skills. Rather than have your child end up with one or two small roles based only on the sport related information...get him the serious training he needs to be looked at like a real contender in acting too.

Let me know if we can offer more help.

Michele

From: harold kelly 
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Editor

Hello
Did not know who to contact in regard to the film. My son Davis Kelly is 12 years old. Davis has appeared in two issues of Sports Illustrated and Time Magazine. Davis has received calls from the Jay Leno and the Ellen degenerss show. Davis is the only living human that has won 34 Gold Metals back to back. Are there any opening in the film for someone like Davis. If you want to know more about Davis download his info.

Respectfully Yours
Harold Kelly

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From: monty 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005  
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Editor

I am looking at this site to see about martial art film schools in southern california. This is why I am on this site.

Sincerely, 


Monty

Dear Monty,

This site is not devoted to listing schools in any part of the country and as far as I know their is no such school anywhere. There are film school and dojo's but I do not know of any honest to goodness legitimate 'martial arts film school'. The one or two that claimed to do that never finished any films that I know of so I never suggest schools of that type. Even schools that claim to teach stunt for film seldom lead to much work because all stunt coordinators want you to follow their lead and not what some teacher taught you.

Try training separately for now. It is harder but you prove yourself and have a better chance at being taken seriously by agents and casting directors. Let us know if we can help more.

Michele

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

I am Cecilia ---- my email is -------  my address is  -------...           
Please tell me how to get known I've been trying forever to get known and I don't if its scams and frauds please help me.

Cecilia,

First and most important...NEVER SEND YOUR HOME CONTACT INFORMATION TO STRANGERS ONLINE. Sorry to use all capitals. It was not meant as yelling this time but just making sure you know how scary it would be if a stranger came to your door.

You want to know if something is a scam but you  do not mention where you live or what company or agent or people might be trying to scam you. You did not give me any details to help me figure out if you are being cheated. You will have to tell me more about why you think you are being scammed so I can help you figure out if you are and how to protect yourself.

PLEASE email some details about this scam you think is happening so we can help protect you a bit on this end!

Michele

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 
To: advise@karateangels.com
Subject: Michele

Ahy my name is Steven and am wondering what karate styles you need for karate
films I do Shotokan and is that good enough thanks mail me back as soon as possible.


Steven,


Different stunt coordinators use different styles. I have seen some Karate and some Judo and more than one style of both in use on feature film sets. There is no one single style best suited for film. What is best is to try and intern for a stunt coordinator who uses the style you trained in. You can break in the door faster that way.

Research the stunt coordinators who do martial arts to figure out which ones use your style the most and send them your information. Let us know if you need more help.

Michele

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From: Annemarie
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

My name is Annemarie F***** and I am 11 years old. I live in West Des Moines, Iowa. I REALLY REALLY want to be an actress on T. V. but I don't know what to do or how to get there. I really want to go to Hollywood, California and start acting but, I have not took any classes yet but my parents are going to sign me up for acting classes. I also am starting to do school plays. We live in Iowa so I have to wait until I am 18 so I can go to college in Hollywood or L. A and act. Is there any acting classes or camps I could go to, at my age ,over the summer, in Hollywood , L. A, or New York? I would really like to be on a comedy show like That's So Raven or The Suite life of Zack and Cody on Disney channel. but I dont know where to find a coach or an agent. I also don't know where to find a director, producer, casting people etc.
    
Sincerely, Annemarie F*****

P.S.  When you go to California to act where do you go ? Do you go to find an agent and a coach? Do you go to an acting studio or what? I'M WORRIED!

Dear Annemarie,

You are worried about too much too soon darling! Slow down because you have a ton of time. You live in an area that is not known for much filmmaking so you are going to have to pay your dues the old fashioned way to start. That means theatre. Not musical theatre but studio and black box theatre. Musical theatre will train you to act in a style that is too large for TV and film so stick with the studio stuff. Because you are still in school you should do any shows there that you can to learn more skills and build a resume.

There are theatre arts camps all over the country that you can attend during summer vacations. I suggest you sit down with your parents and do some web searches and decide together which camps you might want to go to. Make sure your parents help out because they know which camps they can afford and which ones they feel safe about you going to. You can email me back when you narrow it down to a few and I will give you my suggestions then.

Since you cannot go to Hollywood now you will not be able to try out for some of the shows you mentioned for some time. First worry about learning how to act and build a resume. That way when it is time for you to look for an agent...they will sign you because you already have a strong resume. As for me, I go to shoot films where they pay me to go. Email back when you have some camp ideas or if you cannot locate any near you.

Michele

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From: Rochelle A*****
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: reg: MA choreography gung fu

Dear Michele,.

Great website!
I'm writing regarding my fiancée. He is a 28 yr old male with decade plus of MA experience, He has owned his own Gung Fu school (small but close-knit) for the last 6 years as head teacher. His style is similar to the sort of thing you see w/ Jet Li or Jackie Chan, but more so in movies like House of Flying Daggers, etc... He can almost fully imitate the "Matrix" scenes if with the right partner. His dream is to choreograph scenes like in those movies. Or perhaps even work in them, since I've read in your email replies that you need film time first. Any leads for agents, SAG offices, etc.. in our area or additional advise? Any response would be greatly appreciated. We live in Whitehall (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) area.

Thank you very much,
Denise

Dear Denise,

Since you and your fiancée live in Pennsylvania your best bet is to start with the www.sag.com web site. Your area is union so any good agent near you will be listed with them. He will have to join the union and use a union rep so start there. Do not forget to look up agents in DC and NYC since both are a short train ride away. Travel may be a a necessity because work in the North east gets spread out between NYC, NJ, DC and MD. You can also call the SAG office in NY because that would be the one to handle your area. One more...get up with the Drama Bookshop and order the Ross Report because it does cover the North eastern agents in a lot of detail.

If he wants to choreograph he might try to get involved with some of the student filmmakers in the area to at least start and get some footage to show examples of what he can set up...but the stunt people up in the north are very strict on rules and are part of SAG so check those details on doing student and indie film so your fiancée does not do anything that could harm him down the line. Warn him what looks good to the naked eye may not turn out well on film so he should work with a camera before he works on a film so he can learn how to 'cheat' the shot.

Write back if you need more guidance!

Michele

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From: Mclaurin 304
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 
To: advise@karateangels.com

Subject: Michele
Hello my name is Sharon ********. My son Keith is interested in being an actor. I attached his biography and resume. At your convenience could you review this and direct us in the right direction to get him started in action films. Thanks. 

Tannen's


Dear Tannen's,

I am giving you the benefit of doubt by answering because your full signature line suggested you were an agent. I am willing to help a parent guide their child but not to help an agent plug an actor under the guise of seeking help so I removed all of the identifying information sent.

After reviewing the 'resume' I have to ask what acting training have you gotten for your child? I only saw MA training and he needs both to be an action actor. I also saw nothing but MA stuff listed under the heading THEATRE, and that is not theatre but SPECIAL SKILLS listing on an actors resume and TRAINING on a stunt or MA resume, some being under awards. You will need to review the proper formats for resumes and what should be listed. Some agents and casting people will hold it against a talent for not knowing how to format a resume.

Your son is old enough to start reading if he has not already done so. That is a perfect age to get your child involved in theatre or to find a camera acting coach to train him. It is hard to teach them before they can read unless the have a great memory. If his reading is not strong yet you can help him by teaching him how to memorize lines to start.

Since he is already doing well at the Martial Arts this could be a great time to add to his training specifically for the acting side. That will build his resume with the types of things casting people want to see with children when they do not live inside a major city like NYC or LA. Only in the major cities do small kids get early chances at film and TV work. Some families move the entire clan to one coast or the other just to insure their children get an early start. Since most parents cannot afford to do it, all you can do for now is help him get a bigger acting resume and more training.

Don't forget local theatre to start the real acting resume!

Michele

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From: Rene 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

hi Michele .. Do you know anything about Terra Nova Entertainment? and the auditions for the next martial arts superstar?

Thanks 
Rene

Dear Rene,

I first went to find the Tera Nova site. If you notice they make it very clear at the bottom of the rules there is nothing in stone. You may or may not get to star in a video IF you become one of the top 2 men or women in the competition. I like the fact they make that clear and easy to read because few good production companies will make any promise.

Now here is where it gets sticky. I then went to the imdb.com web site (Internet movie data base) and I could not find any listing for this production company. It is still possible they have done some MA movies for 'direct to video' release and those are rarely listed on the imdb web site. However, it bothered me to not find any track record on Tera Nova. Even their web site gives nothing to go on as far as their background in the industry, and I searched for that kind of information. They have a lot of * marks without any 'key' to tell you why they have them on the rules page. If you look closely you will notice where the Asterisk marks are (will be made by Hollywood directors*, will get videos produced for winners*, etc.). It says they have 30 years in the industry but they do not list one single project they have ever produced.

Do a quick check with the BBB in their area and then send your information on. If they do get this thing on air it could be great exposure. But be aware, they do not list any network affiliated to actually air this project and that concerns me a bit too. It is listed as a 'pilot' which means they do not have any network to distribute it yet. That does not mean they will not find one to air it, it simply means there is no guarantee that it will ever see the light of day. Keep in mind the site says you have to pay your own way through the entire process. It could get expensive and if it never airs it might be a lesson learned. If it does get picked up that is another ball game all together but at this time there is not certainty. If you do get on, make them add a 'ryder' to your contract that says you will get daily footage from all of your shoots. That way if nothing happens with the project, you will have some footage to build your own 'reel' with.

Please let us know if you find out anything that I missed and we will add it here so others might look in to things themselves!

Michele

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From: Thompson, Louis Allen
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele-acting advice

Hi, my name is Louis Thompson, and I found your site while looking up information on becoming a martial arts action star. I would like to break into this genre, but I'm not sure how. I am currently a student at East Carolina University. I have studied different styles of martial arts, and I have some tumbling experience. I was wondering if you could offer me some advice on what to do. I have also had trouble finding good martial arts schools that would be able to teach many of the extreme techniques seen in today's martial arts movies. I would really appreciate your help.

Thank you for your time and have a nice day.

Dear Louis,

There are a schools out there but few if any are very strong for what you seek. The extreme techniques you are talking about are partially done with wires. So much of the action packed fighting these days is added to with tricks from the camera, the computer and all kinds of wires and pulleys. Some of what looks so extreme is just shooting from strange angles. Don't get me wrong, it is still hard work but it has not changed as greatly on the work side as it has on the editing and FX side. You can train in any good dojo, and you will still need to add to your training once you are on set. On set fighting is not like any other type of MA fighting because it requires no contact or light contact and you will have to learn how and when to hold back a hit and still look full force. You can only learn that while doing it because it has to be timed and worked out for each camera angle. Every single time they move the camera you will have to shift your 'cheat'.

Take advantage of ECU, Sandra Bullock did come out of there! Since you are in NC, make sure you get your name known to stunt men in the state, like Dean Mumford and John Copeman. They are two of the best and work nationwide even though they are based in North Carolina. Both have some MA background and they also hire MA people. Check their names on the imdb for listings and finding a contact number or try the Wilmington Film Commission web site. Send them your photo and resume with a cover letter telling them the basics of what you told me. If they use you, it might be as an intern at the start and you may not be allowed to do any of the action until they are certain you will follow their guidelines. It WILL get your foot in the door and help you get leads for the specifics you want. They both work with some of the top MA actors and stunt people.

Hope that helps, but email if you need a little more guidance.

Michele

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From: Darren Allen
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Good afternoon,

I have come across your website whilst surfing the net looking for martial agents. I live in the UK and seeking an agent.

Could you possibly help me????


Many thanks
Darren Allen

Darren,

The best place to look for agents listings is through the unions set up for actors and filmmakers. The union for actors in the UK is called Equity. They do have a web site but I was not able to locate it today (my browser is acting up). In the states Equity is just for stage actors but my research shows your Equity covers both stage and film. Check the web site for agents. Most unions will list agents that work within the union guidelines. This will help you be certain you find strong agents who are not out to scam you and take your money.

Break a leg and let us know if we can help more.

Michele

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Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele
My name is Clarissa Ramos. I want to act for television but i have absolutely no experience whatsoever in the industry. I want to go on auditions and to open calls as well as get some coaching. How can i go about this, and do you know of someone reputable who i can go to for further direction? 

Thank you for your time, Clarissa 

Dear Clarissa,

I have no idea what city or state you live in. Without some basic geographic location I cannot suggest any particular coach. You can start by doing local stage shows so you can build your acting and auditioning skills. You will still need some camera training classes because the style of acting for stage is bigger than for camera. If you do small theatre shows and not big musicals, you will have an easier time making the change later. If there is a college near by that has a theatre program, you may find a coach there. I really need to know what general area you are in to try and send you the right direction. Please email us back with that information so I can help better!

Don't forget to read the articles I wrote on this site about becoming an actor. Some of the information you need is in it.

Michele

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From: James Stuart
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:26 PM
To: advise@karateangels.com
Subject: Stunt Work

Hi Michele Seidman,

I am Interested in movie action and martial arts fight scenes in movies. I have done fight scenes in rap videos and stuff like that. I have been currently doing martial arts for 13 years. i live in Ireland and want some information about stunt work in Hollywood as i might move to Hollywood if i get a break.

Talk to you soon.

Sensei James Stuart 

Dear James,

Hollywood is full of stunt and action actors. Since you are in Europe anyway, have you considered breaking in the door there first? Your video work will give you something to show stunt people as an example. Don't forget you have Sheffield Studios, and Cinne Cita is just across the water in Rome. Some of the biggest "Hollywood" films have been shot near you. Even "Cold Mountain", a movie about the Carolinas in the USA was shot in Romania. 

Before you head to California where the best connections are...add some more work to your resume right near home. That way when you come over here you will have a great credit list AND you will have already made some Los Angeles contacts while you are working near home. It will make it easier to come here with some networking already done!

Break a leg,

Michele

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From: MR MONDNGHT
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele
ive actually studied acting in college i had a few semesters of theatere and preformed in school plays but its just how do i go about meeting the right people?? 

Mr. Mondnght,

It is hard to offer information when I have little to go on. I cannot tell you where to network if I have no clue where you are to begin with. You want to meet directors, producers and casting people. You also need an agent. Without knowing your location it is hard to guide. Please email us back with that information.

Michele

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From: Bianca-Lara Guevarra 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: hey i need advice

hey im B that's my nickname.im a 13 yr old grl.well im asking 4 advice abt like if u rlly wanted 2 b something when u grow up how can u make it come true??well it's cuz my dream is 2 b an actress singer one day,and im trying real hard 2 make it come true im even moving nxt yr jast 4 it.well the thing is im scard that i woulden't b that grl 1 day cuz some of the ppl think it's impossible but 2 me nothing is impossible i watch alot of TV showz and usualy the showz say nothing is impossible when there's a will there's a way right!!!well but something is wrong my parents don't believe i could b that grl one day but i alwayz say 2 myself, then i'll jast make this dream come true alone without them,that i don't quit!!!!!that i'll alwayz believe in myself,alwayz trst that i could do it and have faith in myself right?so hope u can help me and i rlly need help also finding an agent and everthing else 2 b an actress singer.

tnx
sincerly B

Dear B,

Lets start at the beginning. This may be a little hard to read. If you want anyone to take you seriously do NOT email using slang and symbols. If you want to be seen as a professional YOU must act like one. Dreams are a wonderful thing but they do not pay the rent.

If you want your parents to take this seriously then you have to do the same. From where I sit (and remember this is a guess based on your email)...you are dreaming about this but not putting anything in to action.

Since you are 13, start with school plays. Then try out for community theatre where there are more people to compete with. If you take this seriously and work hard at it your parents will start to support you. They have good reason to not want to help out yet. 99% of those who try to be actors NEVER make money at it. Your parents want you to be aware for a good reason. They are trying to raise you so you can support yourself someday and they are probably afraid they will have to pay your rent forever if you try acting with your current style.

You are young though and have time to learn. See if there are any camera acting teachers in your area. Teachers not only show you the tricks for acting but they often have some of the best connections and know where to find casting people. Like some of the other emails I have no clue what area you are in so it makes it hard to give any specifics. If you email back a location I can help a little more.

Just remember, your parents will take this seriously when you do!

Michele

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From: MARK BLUMENTHAL
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Acting agencies.

How do I get into an acting agency? All i find on the internet are ones for film extras. Please help! I don't know where else to look!
luv Lauraxxx

Dear Laura,

Buy the Ross Report from the Drama Book Store in NYC. The Ross Report lists all the REAL agents in NYC and some for California too. They have an 800 number you can get through 1-800-555-1212 (800 directory). Online agents are NOT going to do much good as you have so wisely mentioned handle 'extras' and not 'actors'.

Hope that starts you off,

Michele

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From: Thomas W. McKay
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Greetings Michelle, (LETTER EDITED FOR SPACE, SEE STORY FOR FULL DETAILS)

I am a retired science teacher (70 years of age) with deadly prostate cancer (nine years now but only given 18 months to live). Due to my condition and the startling fact that arguably the greatest black kick boxer (and most likely the greatest American kick boxer ever), seven-time world champion, Cliff 'Magic' Thomas, hasn't sufficiently been given his just rewards, I spent three years writing a book about him to remind those who may have forgotten that this icon of the sport who was born with a hole in his heart the size of a silver dollar and not expected to live past age fourteen, just recently retired his last championship belt but is gearing up for a book and speaking tour. That being said (lengthy but true), the book is obviously called "Magic, Magic, Magic." 
(Section edited)

So why has no producer or star (Black in Cliff's case) never really taken the serious side of a karate or kickboxing icon and leapfrogged the 'B' movie themes that most karate films have? Well, I don't know but I would submit to you that someone, somewhere, somehow, should check out Cliff's story (unique in the sport because he is black and a rare role model who mostly avoided alcohol and parties to reach the pinnacle of his sport) fire up the gray matter and let the old and the new fans and ardent supporters of the martial arts rekindle or learn of Cliff's accomplishments by means of a movie. Silly as it sounds Jaime Foxx actually is a Cliff look alike at about age 38. Cliff is now 48 but still fit and could actually fight again if necessary. He beat Thomas Downing of Canada for his 6th title and Michael "The Godfather" Corleone in 2002 for his 7th title even though his was 46 years of age.
I guess you easily surmised why I wrote the book. I will be amongst the dearly departed in the not too distant future and I want to do what I can to ensure my beloved friends legacy. Chuck Norris never won a full contact title but he can act a little and he is a first class salesman. 

Cliff is in the World Karate Union Hall of Fame with Chuck, but is more modest and actually more charming. Cliff is also in the Texas Karate Hall Of Fame, the El Paso Athletic Hall of Fame and the Dallas/Ft. Worth Hall of Fame and some other awards. His fight with Vizzio had a clip shown on NBC Sports world for numerous years in their opening segments.
To contact Cliff, go to www.Cliffmagicthomas.com, www.magicthomas.com, or call 817 729 9047 or me at 915 591 6089 or clifthom1@msn.com 

Thanks Much as if you read this mail in its entirety,
Thomas W. McKay
Boxing/Kickboxing Trainer, Founder: El Paso Boxing Hall Of Fame, Founder:El Paso Martial Arts Hall Of Fame, Graduate: UTEP & Purdue, Golden Gloves Coach & Official, USA Boxing Coach & Official, Pro Trainer, Tutored: Randy 'Tex' Cobb ( The Champion, Uncommon Valor, Raising Arizona). Juan Lazcano ( Lost to Castillo for world title last year), Cliff thomas ( 7 World Kickboxing Titles)'
Trainer of the year in El Paso seven times. Masters Degree: UTEP
Author: The Black Knight of Kickboxing, Cliff 'Magic' Thomas in "Magic, Magic, Magic."

Dear Thomas,

           Why is Cliff not as well known as he should be? You may have a point about his being black but thank goodness times have changed greatly. I would guess part of the reason is that he was the one taking most of the hits. Often those who do the hardest jobs on films get over looked from stunt men down the lines to production coordinators. You and I know it takes all parts but sometimes the Hollywood machine forgets we ALL love a heart warming story about a real life hero.

Cliff Thomas, SHOULD have a story done on him and I am very glad you have been working on this. I have a feeling once word gets out on his story that people will want to option the book. I will be honest…if I had the money I would option the book and wrestle to get it made. That IS how good I think the story is.

I myself forwarded your email in its entirety to a few producers I know fairly well. I kept the email in tact with all the contact information on it. I have no idea if anyone will call but I am hoping they do. In case no one calls fast…give me a ‘good will’ option for six months and let me give it a try. One of the main issues will be no script written yet. If the book is not out yet that slows things down a bit too but I still think this is a story worth fighting over. I just hope they are smart enough to include your story in the mix. I think the fact you are trying to do this with your own life upside down speaks volumes about what a wonderful human you are and what an incredible friend you are to Cliff. Cliff must be something to have you in his corner.

Please keep me informed and email us with anything. I do mean anything. You can even ask the web master for my personal email! I lost my mother to cancer and she would admire your actions too!

Michele 

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Reply from: Thomas W. McKay
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Greeting Michelle,

Michelle, Thanks for the lovely response. And yes, the books first edition is nearly sold out. Cliff and I had book signings in March and April in El Paso and Ft. Worth and Dallas. You can see the book cover, back jacket and Cliff's Highlights as well as photos at www.Cliffmagicthomas.com or www.magicthomas.com
I will gladly send you a book, etc., if you provide me with an address and your e-mail as you suggested on the board.
I am at 915 591 6089 or reach me thru the website or my e-mail: mckaythomas@sbcglobal.net . Cliff is at 817 729 9047 (cell) or at clifthom1@msn.com .
I also have film...lots of film. If you get the opportunity, look at the film of his fight against the mighty and worthy Paul Vizzio back in 1981. It is shuddering what he did to another fantastic and super champion. That is a classic of all time. Or, when he was the first fighter to hold two titles at the same time when he destroyed welterweight champion , Tommy Williams, in a racially tense encounter. Or, his fights with Tony Rosser which are know in the business as WW1, WW2 and WW3.
When the PKA under Joe Corley ( took the heat but there were other forces at work) for the collapse of the best fight game ever invented, Cliff had won four titles, more than anyone else in history. Fortunately, ISKA saved the day for a spell and most of the PKA went under that umbrella. Cliff would destroy Thomas chesterfield for the Lt. Welterweight title and his 5th world championship.
The most wonderful aspect of Cliff's personality is that he was a grandmaster role model in the days when black kids really need a standout to look up to and other than the tens of thousands who were party to Thomas' closeness and career, Hollywood and the media snubbed him other than an occasional part in a film. A household name in martial arts and kickboxing, he was just another victim when it came time for someone to do the right thing and give the icon of the sport his just dues.
Cliff can still get it on if necessary. He proved that by coming out of retirement and blasting his way to two more world titles. However, he and his lovely wife Wanda have a handicapped daughter to care for in Ft. Worth. Cliff was offered some good jobs out of the area but is a staunch supporter of his family and loves them dearly.
Okay, I've rambled enough. Please get back to me and lets see what we can do about that 6 month option.

Have A Happy

Tom McKay

p.s. I am also the 'Science Guy' at www.mvalumni.com. Check it out. I have a scrapbook as well there. Mar vista High School in Imperial Beach , California was my Alma Mater. I used to groom horses in Tijuana as a 17 year old and like my brother William Fraser, aspired to be a jockey. Darn, I got too tall. After the Marine cops, 1953-56, I got into boxing and served as a policeman for El Paso and later as Sgt. In Charge of Criminal Investigations for UTEP. Then I hooked up with Randall 'Tex' Cobb for a spell and there were some hellacious times during those days. Whew!!!! Randall takes up most of chapter two of my book.
The second edition of the book will be bigger ( 6X 9) and of much better quality. It should be out around December 1st. I still have 200 copies of the first edition. 

twm


From: Anna Caraballo
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Joe Corley

I hope I am not bothering you, but I was interested in the Joe Corley 
American Karate school for my son. I was hoping that you could tell me 
whether you recommend this company or not?

Thank you,
Anna

Hi Anna,

I looked up the school and they have strong credits in the MA world for sure. Plus it seems they also train local law enforcement which is always a good sign. Police departments almost always find the best MA places to train. I put a call in to one of their locations and asked if any instructor had worked on MA films. The lady I spoke to thought one of the instructors does so she is checking and going to give me a call back. I will add her reply as soon as someone calls me back. I will say…even if they do not have anyone who has done film, they sound like a very strong dojo for anyone to get started from. Since we are talking about Atlanta…your daughter could train for MA at the Joe Corley school and then look for a private acting coach like Charles Lawlor. He teaches acting in Atlanta and has had plenty of students find work in film and television. I have not seen him in a few years but rumor has it he is still there teaching (I have not been that way in ages). I still see his www.imdb.com  listing growing so I know Charles is still out there working away. If you find him, tell him I said hello!

I will let you know when they contact me about their instructors! I might email it directly for timing so keep an eye on your spam folder too (I will put the site name in the subject box).

Michele


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From: MR. MONDNGHT
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele
hi my name is kofi nsafoah in actor martial artist my quetion is how do i find the right contacts evryone wants rip people off and backstage craigs list doesnt have anyhting nycastings charge for their services how do i go about meetin the right people and i live in new yor city any suggestions??

Dear Kofi,

You start by learning which publications were made FOR actors. The craig list is nice and all but it is not an actors site. I have no clue who NY Casting is…but if they charge you a single dime they are ripping you off because they get paid to get you work. Any real casting agency is hired by productions and paid a fee to cast actors. ACTORS DON’T PAY TO BE SEEN BY CASTING OR AGENTS. Sorry to yell but I have said this over and over on this board and on the main page of my articles here on this site. 

It sounds like you are dealing with extras casting possibly because no real actor would pay a fee to be seen. Some companies take advantage of those who do not know better. 

You say you are an MA actor but you do not mention any acting training at all. My guess is you have not taken much training or you would already know not to pay out any money and you would know to buy the Ross Report to locate REAL agents and casting directors. The Ross Report is published monthly because agents change companies. The Ross Report can be purchased at the Drama Book store in NYC and several other locations there. 

You also want to find the REAL Backstage magazine and not off of web sites. Very little casting is done off the web. I have been acting 30 years and have NEVER been booked off the web. Does that tell you anything? Even my students who work the web like crazy have only gotten a student film or two through the web. My agent video tapes me and other actors for auditions that are too far away because casting wants to see a LIVE version of the actor not just a still photo and a resume. 
( Alexander: Ignore this line it wont go away dag nab it and no clue how it got here either…lol)
Honestly Kofi…go get some good training on the business of acting. Buy Hollywood 101 by Frederick Levy and then work forward. You need to understand how this business works before you give anyone the wrong first impression. Let us know if we can help more, 

Michele


From: VERONICA POSADA
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 

Subject: acting advice for a beginner {please help me].

   hey what's up?
i'm a 14 year old girl who is starting a acting carree and i'm very shy and nervice so i was wondering if you can please give me any kind of advice or tips on how to stay focus. and how to prepare for auditions, interview, and any other stuff i need to know about acting. so please help me. thank you so much.bye.

Dear Veronica,

If you can find anyone who does not get nervous before or after a show...they are going to be over 40 and have done this all their lives. Even some older talent still get nervous. Shy is something you will have to work on. I used to be horribly shy and seldom talked, only watched people. Maybe what I did to break out of my shell will help you. I started by pretending in my own head that I was a reporter for the newspaper. 

When I met new people I would ask them to tell me about themselves. People like to talk about their own life so it is easy to get people to talk. No matter what they say or talk about you can ask more questions...new ones or for more detail on what they bring up. The idea is getting yourself more comfortable around new people. You can also take a public speaking class. This way you can practice speaking in front of strangers, none of which are going to judge you because they are there for the same reason.

As in anything practice makes it better over time. You might try to do some small parts in local stage shows. Many people who are major actors were once very shy. Know in your heart, you are not alone and lots of us went through the same things. As for those nerves, in some cases only time helps but some actors meditate or do stretching exercises before shows to relax their nerves. Deep, slow breathing to lower your heart rate is another trick. You may want to try a few things and see which works for you.

I hope that helped. If those tricks don't work, email us back and I will give you a few more!

Michele


From: Brandi
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005
To: advise@karateangels.com 

Subject: Michele

Hi Michele my name is Brandi and i want to get involved in action movies and doing stunts in movies i have done alot of martial arts and am very serious about it and was wondering if it cost alot of money to get an agent and start doing commercials and additions.

       Thanks for your time Brandi

Brandi,

DON'T GIVE ANY AGENT MONEY BEFORE THEY GET YOU WORK. Sorry to yell like that but I just wanted to make a strong point. No good agent will take a single dime from you until they get you a job. At that time they get a set percentage of the pay you get. You do not pay them filing fee's, set up cost, phone service cost, or any other supposed fee other than the 'contracted' amount already set up in writing regarding 'work' done.

You mention being involved in MA for some time but you do not mention anything about acting. Good agents will NOT look at you for commercial auditions or film without some type of acting, or acting training on your resume. If you want to do commercial and film work you will HAVE to train for camera acting even if you build your resume with stage shows at the same time.

I hope I am right in assuming you don't have any acting background. I can only go by what you wrote in your email. Please go to the articles on this site that I wrote regarding getting acting training. That will speed a few things up. Email us back when you are ready to move to the next stages. If you jump ahead you might get cheated and spend money you never had to spend.

Michele


From: MORCOM, SEAN FC3 (SW) 
To: 'advise@karateangels.com 

Subject: Michele

Hi Michele,

I really do appreciate this you being on this web site helping martial artist who want to become actors. I am a 22 year old male martial artist, who has been struggling to get into the action actor segment. I have practiced for 7 years, more for sparring than forms (kata). I have tried out for many movies in the San Diego and Los Angles area. Each time, I haven't been chosen or called on again for these reason. Either I need to have an agent, or, for roles calling for young Asian males, I'm not "Asian" enough. Seeing that I'm half Korean, half Caucasian, I'm taller and more heavily built than most Asian males. I have been extra's for the TV show JAG( I'm in the military), and was used in a recruiting commercial. But, nothing to do with martial arts. the question I'm wondering is, is there a way to get around having an agent to break into the action actor area. If not, what agencies do you recommend for martial art actors to sign on with? Especially in the Seattle area (I will be moving there soon). Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Dear Sean,

Funny how you spend most of your life here in the states and everyone tells you look Asian only to be told by film people you do not look Asian enough. In film your best assets work for and against you...but one day your 'look' will be exactly what they want. You see, with the Caucasian thrown in you do not fit the stereo type for Asians. Silly I know. If it helps...I am southern born and told I don't seem southern enough. I am part Celt, Ukrainian and Mongolian and yet I have played more Italian women than 'Celt' types. It might help to find a strong acting coach who can help you understand how 'they' see you so you can play up to that.

As for having an agent. It is not legal for them to tell you that in California. It is only legal to turn you down based on your not being in the union because it is a union state. SAG has serious rules but they do allow actors to self submit without an agent in California. It may not be in your best interest to mention this unless it is a SAG film. If it is a union film telling you you must have an agent, they can get a huge fine for it. They will not push the issue if they know you are aware. Otherwise you would have to get to know key stunt people and try to work under them to break in that way but that could mean working for free until they trust you on safety and following their directions.

However, without an agent you are fighting a battle that is too big for a single human to fight. Even if California films and casting people HAVE to allow self submitting actors...it makes their job harder. Agents are a clearing house of sorts for the casting process. It is easier for casting to call 50 agents to see a 1000 actors...but to call a 1000 actors...YIKES. Few actors have a clue about handling negotiations and that is an even bigger reason to get an agent. I can read a contract almost as well as a lawyer, so they lawyers tell me...but I have been reading those kind of contracts for 30 years.

I have to be honest about Seattle. I know it as a music scene and not as a film scene. You can check the SAG web site and see if they list agents there but you might have to do some serious research on that area before you go. One last thing...as for extra work...STOP. Are you an actor or an extra? Pick one! In California you have a ton of people who do nothing but extra work and make a living on it and they never want to be actors. Those people can get bitter about people taking their jobs. What if you get an extra gig that was supposed to go to some guy who has worked on 100 films as an extra? He has more contacts than you and has more trust from the crew than you...because he has been there quietly doing his job for years. That extra could make you look bad if your not careful...and people will trust them before you because they have been around so long.

Besides...extras are NOT actors. I know that extras CAN make all the difference in how a film looks. Extras are very important to filming, but they are not actors, and on the West coast there is a major distinction. Plus, SAG does not allow for more than 3 'upgrades' on films out there. Upgrading is when an extra is given a real line. That is rare and more often than not, the line will go to an extra they have known a long time. More often than not they will call around to find a union actor before they upgrade anyone because that IS what the union rules make them do. If you want to be considered for acting roles, then present yourself as an actor, not an extra.

Let me know what you find about Seattle. I can do some background research for you if you write back with an agents names for that area. Break a leg and keep us updated.

Michele


Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
To:
advise@karateangels.com

Subject: Michele do you know of any areas for summer jobs?

               Hey Michele you don't know me but I'm Eli. Hi well I'm writing to you cause I was wondering if you knew of any marital arts choreographer companies in Hollywood that I can applied to as a trainee or for a short internship? I have study martial arts for 11 yrs with Karate and Aikido and just trying this field to see if I would like for a full time job after my AA degree. Any information would be helpful or phone numbers of who I can contact.

Thanks Eli Gale 

Dear Eli, Unfortunately there is no such thing as a martial arts choreography company that I have heard of. Each film hires its own fight choreographer, also known as the Key Stunt man or Key Fight coordinator. There is a fairly logical reason they seldom have companies. Each film picks the actors it wants to use and the stunt people then hire others according to the star and the script. It would be nearly impossible to prepare people in advance. What would they do if they prepared a 5’5” woman to double for an actress who turns out to be 5’9”? They could not use the person they prepared, which is why they seldom prepare too many things in advance. Same if they prepare everyone for Judo when Karate is needed.  

If you are willing to intern and add to your training for free, you need to research stunt and fight people who are near you that you might work for. Contact them and tell them what you told me. Don’t take no for an answer. Be a polite pest and write back a few months later and ask again. 

Keep in mind that lots of people are offering to work for them for free because it is standard to train under a fight master before he will use you for work anyway. If they say they cannot train you now, ask if you can simply come watch some of their work if you stay out of the way. Anything to get on set or around key stunt people will help you down the line. You might learn a lot from simply watching and if they see you plan on sticking it out…they are 10 times more likely to train and use you down the line.  

Don’t give up. As Gregory Hines once said to me “It is those who will not be denied”…those people make it! 

Best wishes, 

Michele


From: hafez seif 

Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005

To: advise@karateangels.com

Subject: karate

 hey Michele 

                 I am hafez seif and i have trained in the martial art for 5 years and I am 20 years old my field in martial arts is in Shotokan do international and I have sho dan in Shotokan ski and I love Jean Claude Van Damme among all actor

I want move to USA and I have so question of you

1. if Jean Claude Van Damme has a sport club in USA and where

2. if I want to complete my martial arts skill where is suitable club for training karate

3. if I can have job for play in a action movie in Hollywood in in the future

thanks for your attention

Dear Hafez, 

I am not aware if Jean Claude has his own work out gym. His personal life seems to have prevented him from getting as much film work lately. I can understand you being a fan of his work and fight style but you might go farther if you pick another role model. I do not want to detail why I say this, but it is public record that he has assaulted women. Hollywood does not put up with that kind of behavior for long. 

As for question 2, I do not know where you live so it is impossible to suggest a place to train for you. Are you in the USA or another country? If you can give me a general location I can help you better. Question 3: Can you ‘have a job in film? No, you cannot ‘have’ a job you must work for it and earn your way in. It is possible that English is not your first language and I took the question wrong because our grammar is a bit different. So if I got that wrong please tell me and I will try to answer it better. 

It may not seem like I have helped much but you have only 5 years in the Martial Arts and only 20 years old. You have plenty of time to add more training in MA, but don’t forget to train for camera work too! Take some acting classes or find and karate teacher who has worked on movies before so he can teach you the differences for film. 

I wish you the best and send me your location so I can look in to a good dojo for you. 

Michele


Dear Michelle;                   

Guilin (China) 12th May 2005. 

Greetings. How are you?   

My name is Silvio Simac. I am currently in China shooting "Dead or Alive" based on  Play-station / X Box game. It is directed by Cory Yuen and I play a character of Leon in the midst of the most stunning scenery I have had the opportunity to be in. 

In March I was in Bulgaria shooting a Nu Image Production “Undisputed 2” with Isaac Florentine and next month I will be seen across the silver screens internationally in "Unleashed" / "Danny The Dog" where I have a wonderful fight scene against Jet Li.  

As it happens "Danny The Dog" is getting theatrical release in Hong Kong next month. The Hong Kong posters for Danny The Dog are featuring Jet Li and myself which has been a great publicity for me in Asia thus far and created new opportunities. 

Beyond, Dead or Alive, I am looking to come to the USA and explore some work opportunities. I've hooked up with few non martial arts / action people out there so I would be very grateful if you would kindly point me in the right direction as to where the best place to go, find a good PR agent, Management etc. 

P.S. You can take a look at my resume and photographs either on www.silviosimac.com  or www.silviosimac.co.uk  although they are both under construction at the moment and not complete. 

Thank you very much in advance. Have a nice day and I hope to hear from you soon. 

Kind regards 

Silvio Simac

To Silvio, 

      You do not seem to need much help from me young man. You are out in the middle of it all and doing it. I hope some of the others reading the board notice how much you are out there hustling for your craft! You make a great example for others here. 

I do not know if you plan on going to NY or California but agents have offices in both cities most often. First ask those friends/contacts who they use for agents and PR. You might be able to meet with their agents faster than with those you have no connection with. Some of the top agents are still I. A. & William Morris. You can purchase a little book/magazine called the Ross Report through the Drama Bookstore in NYC (they have an online site too but I don’t have the link). It is published monthly and includes all of the agents, casting people, PR and more. It only cost a few dollars and it gets put out monthly because agents move around a bit.. After you get a copy go to a site called www.WhoRepresents.com

On the search part, type in the names of some of the MA actors you are most likely to work with. You can find out which agent and PR person they are listed with. If you do this first you are more likely to find the agents who handle MA actors and have the right connections for them to get work. DO NOT go for agents who handle MA actors who look like you or who you might compete with. Most good agents will not put actors against each other in any audition. They are going to work first for the person who already makes them money. 

Since you have publicity going in Asia, do some research on Steve Tartalia since he has done more MA movies in Asia than almost any other American. He could be a good role model for you at this stage of the game. He may not be as famous as some, but he works more than most! 

I wish you the best and please let us know how things go in the future. 

Michele


Michele Seidman offers private classes and consultations focusing on camera acting, cold reading and the business of show business. Private acting classes cost $30 per session. Consultations for individuals interested in acting or modeling, provide the proper information to enter the 'biz.'

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