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If you have any questions for Michele, send them to advise@karateangels.com


DEAR READERS PLEASE TAKE NOTE: If you are looking for information on where and how to find coaches, agents and casting people you MUST include your location. (Outside of the USA please list the country, inside the USA please list the State.) If you take time to read others emails OR the articles I wrote for this site, you MAY find your question has been answered.

 

 


From: Nishbeth G
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele: acting

Hey Michele:

I'm a 14 year old girl and I have read all the...um...'document' you put on. It really helped but I have a few questions...."du'h!' ^^;;

Fisrt: Once I um... You mentioned that practicing martial arts its the best way to get started so lets say I do what then? continue until I get the black belt? but then?? I live on Puerto Rico and my mom and dad would let me travel if I'm sure of what I want. I want to be an actress so I will take your advice and start as a martial artist. But Afterwards what do I do?? How do I audition?? Since I live in puerto rico I don't have news obout auditions for hollywood movies or any movie! Please do write back!! It's my dream to become an actress!
Sincerly yours

Nishbeth
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Dear Nishbeth,

First things first, do you want to be an actress or a 'action actor'? If you want to be an actress, you do not have to learn martial arts. Martial arts is one of the best ways to make your way in to action movies, as a stunt person or action actor. Actors do not have to be in M.A to be in regular movies that do not have lots of stunts or chases.

If you only want to act, follow the article I wrote for the web site about taking classes and doing theatre. I know there is stage in Puerto Rico. In fact I know an actor from that area who does not do any martial art. His name is Henry Darrow (Delgado). He was the first Latino actor to play Zorro and was a series regular on the television show High Chaparral. He can still be spotted in film and doing guest spots on television. He started with stage work and radio and worked his way up. He rarely did his own stunts and even once sent a 'dummy' up in a plane in his place. Martial arts are not a requirement to act...but they sure help if you want to do action films and stunt work.

If you want to do action acting, you don't have to become a multiple degree black belt but it is better if you train for a long time. Most stunt coordinators will want you to be very capable of all the moves, and be able to take their direction. That can be hard for the over trained person at times because they want to do the 'strike or hit' the real way, when the film camera requires cheating angles to look right on film. So be ready to adapt.

Once you have gotten some stage work in your area you will start to meet other actors and hear about bigger projects. It will take some time but you are young. Don't forget they make television shows where you live. Soap operas are a good way to make a living and build a resume to move on to larger things. Commercials can pay a lot of bills if they get run a lot. Start in your area and worry about moving to a bigger market once you have learned a few skills and know more about the industry.

Everyone should buy the book "Hollywood 101" by Frederick Levy. It is a good book about the film industry. I do not know if it translated to Spanish, so you may have to translate it yourself. Best of luck and keep us posted.

Michele


 

From: billl
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Michele, I collect autographed photos of people in movies and would like to add yours to my collection, i have al-ways wanted to be a stunt person, but could never travel great distances for long periods of time, iam  a professional Firefighter right now, but my hobby is collecting autographed photos and if you could send me one i would appreciate it and I don't expect it for free please let me know how much you would have to have for a sexy shot of you.

Thank you,

Bill

Bill,

This site has a ton of children and teen agers on it and was made for them. I do not take those types of photos. I am a character actress and most of my photos are normal or in character make up and wardrobe. If you had not requested such a photo you might have gotten one but the fact you asked for that type of photo on a site devoted to children is exactly why I will not send one. As if the children in our world are not exposed to too much already.

Any kids reading, you do not owe anyone a photo of this type. You should never take a photo of this type unless you are over 21 and it is your choice only. The fact this person offered to pay me for it also scares the heck out of me. This is not normal in the film world. If someone wants an autographed photo they normally ask for just that and they do not ask for a certain type of photo. Keep this in mind as you grow up and work the industry.

Those types of photos are not needed to make a name for yourself.

Bill, you made me mad asking for such a thing on a site devoted to kids. Don't do it again or I will leave your email address visible for Parents and they can contact you about asking for something like this on a site for kids and teens. Be extra glad you did not do this in person! An apology should be sent to this site right away by this person.

Michele

(Kids and Parent note: I would have left this off the board but I thought it would be a good chance for all the younger folks to learn how to NOT allow someone to make them uncomfortable as this person just did to me. Parents tell your kids to watch out for key words and to NEVER give in to a stranger asking for inappropriate contact of any kind even in photo form.)


From: Frank
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Hi,

Just wondering as a full  time professional martial arts instructor in the
Shotokan karate discipline and limited acting experience. Living in the UK
and training in a discipline for over 23 years. At the age 35 is it too late
to pursue a career in  acting in marial arts movies and based where I am
what is the best way of apporaching this in the UK

Regards

Frank N
www.actistaff.com 

Frank,

No it is not too late. As a matter of fact if you read the numbers on who works in the film world, men over 40 work more than any other group. White men most, then black men, then women come in the mix. The fact you are in your middle 30's gives you time to learn a few film tricks before you jump in. The older you get the more you will work. Keep in mind Harrison Ford was almost 40 before he really started to make any name for himself and Wilford Brimley (sp?) was 50 when he started acting.

The truth is there is no such thing as too late, only not patient enough. It takes time no matter what age you start so if you can handle that you should be fine. Let's be honest, you are a person of great discipline or you would not have the background you now have. Take it an apply it here. You can get up with stunt people in your area. Sheffield studios is there and Equity is the union. You should be able to get lists of stunt actors from the union but I would not be surprised to find out you have a few contacts already because of your background. Use any contact and ask questions.

Plus, you are not far from Italy and Cinne Citta Studios. They are filming all the time there and it is not too far for you to travel some. Research any martial arts movie made in the UK in the last 5 years too. That will give you the names of the people who are working the most in your area now. Find them, send them a photo and a resume with a cover letter telling them of your MA background and your interest in MA films. Please do get some camera acting classes under your belt because it will make a huge difference once you get on set!

Let us know if we can help more.

Michele


From: Tony
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Hi Michele,..my name is Tony tjioe,

First I'm very impressed with you advices and responds. I'm not sure if I wanted to be in the movie, but, I was a 2 time National TKD champion in Indonesia.. (It was the only 2 tournaments I have participated in, both in Junior and senior level, i was honored for the best Taekwondoin  too..)the reason I'm writing to you is  I think have a pretty good taste of what a Martial arts movie should look like..

I tried to write to Jean claude Van Damme, abt what he could do to make his movie better, i havent yet got the respond. Well, let me explain to you what i wrote to him...
I told him his moves are too choppy, he uses 1,2,3,4 ...count on most of his moves, instead of 1,2-3-4,5..or 1,2,3-4-5, or any kind of combinations in that manner. All his moves looked like he's waiting for his opponent to finish his/her attacks and then he made his moves.. Second, he has already struggle from the very beginning of his movie.. (it got better at his lates movies...)I believe, the audiences prefer to see their Idol to stay strong as he/her  until necessary reasons.. not when he just came up on the screen fighting extras who were just there for minutes..My point is, we need to see him showing off his strenght before he actually find his match..His face expression when he took the hit was too painful too watch.. he should be able to show that the pain was bad, but,he should have been like.. "Hey I'm the man here, i can take it. that aint shit, give me more..."
On his acting part, he needs to be in the movie where there're at least couple of good actors, to bring his acting up a bit.. C'mon we all know that he's a cocky one,if he witnessed someone who's doing a good job playing the part, he'd want to top it..someone like late Pat Morita (in Desert Heat) ,he(Jean) actually acted pretty decent in that movie, i would tell you what Jet Li has done wrong in his movie ,if you want me to.....(let me know if you like to know what i feel abt his movies..)Okay, i think I said enuff.. but, can you tell me where i would i fit in the industry? 

I appreaciate any respond,thx!
TT

Dear Tony,

Have you ever thought about reviewing MA movies? You seem to have a lot of good ideas and thoughts on how fights should look on film too. Ever thought about learning to choreograph fights for film?

I will tell you why you may never get a reply from Jean Claude. First, no one likes a stranger telling them they did everything wrong. Next time try pointing out what you like about his work and maybe only one or two thoughts on what he did wrong. Personally I do not care for watching him in films because it is public record he has hit the women in his life. I will not support any human who attacks weaker people for no good reason. He may be well trained to fight but he has no idea of what Bushido means. Until he makes a public apology for hitting women and gets help for it I will not watch his work.

In his defense as far as film is concerned, all of his moves may not be his own. Keep in mind there is a director there often telling the actors what he wants to see and not what the actor wants to do in all cases. There is also a key stunt person telling him what needs to be done. Keep in mind that camera angles have to be cheated and rarely does anyone make real contact so it is all in the camera set up. Then add the edit in the mix. 

If the editor is making final cuts he can make or break the way an actor looks by choosing shots that the actor did badly. I am not saying any of this happened because I was not on those sets. I am only mentioning how many factors can make or break a way a film looks in the end. It is not the talent alone that make a movie look good. I have worked on films that the script looked like crap but once shot and edited the film was wonderful. You just never know until it is finished and once it is done...it is done, good or bad.

Hope that helps you figure out how filming works a bit and make a choice for what you might do down the line. Maybe you should look in to editing!

Michele


From: Emilmarti
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: Michele

Dear Michele,

I was wondering if there are agents out there or managers who deal with just Martial Arts Actors? could you recommend me to any of them I would be very grateful for your help.

Here is my website,
http://uk.geocities.com/emilmartirossian/ 

Thank you for your time,

Best wishes to you always,

Emil Martirossian

Emil,

I have heard of one or two agents that work with MA talent but so far not one of those that set up just for MA talent has managed to honestly make any mark in the film world that I know of. Most who claim to handle MA actors actually have in house production companies and are looking for cheap or free talent to help them make their films come together. Now and then they actually make a film but few make it to a theatre. 

I admit being involved in one such production myself. In my own defense I was hired as an actor and not a martial arts person and only found out at the end of the film what was going on. I got paid because my contracts were signed before we started the film but others never got their money and the film has not gotten a distributor to this day.

Stick with regular talent agents and buy a copy of the Ross Report from the Drama Bookstore in NYC. They list all the agents and you can look through to find who works with athletic talent. Anything that says sports or specialty talent on them should be the first people you send your photo and resumes to. Start there and give us a heads up on how that worked and if we need to guide you further!

Michele


From: Raza
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006
To: advise@karateangels.com 
Subject: new martial artist.

I have seen your web page.  Let me introduce myself.  Name is Raza S***, I live in a small town Redditch in England.  I have studied martial arts for years from American kickbox, Muay Thai to Kung Fu, Choi Kwang do.  I want to come to Hollywood one day, only to be a martial arts star.  I have not got much experience in acting however, but you know martial arts is my sport.  

This is definitely the path I want to take for my future, because I want to show my years of experience to some of the world and make good use of it.  You mentioned in your web page, at first you have to be a villian,.  Hey I am up for that.  The only concern is I do not know where to start.  I mean no one has ever taken this step from my city before and I do not have any contacts around here that could help me into your industry.  I want to meet the correct people, so I settle in to Hollywood quickly rather then waiting for years and years for some one to choose me.  Could you give me any contacts or even supportive advice at this stage.  It would help me so much. 

raza

Raza,

I wish I knew your age because it would help me guide you a little better. I am going to assume you are young, at least below 20. If I am wrong let me know because it will change a little bit of the advise. First find out who teaches acting for camera anywhere near you. Do not come to Hollywood until you have had some acting classes and even gotten some small film parts. If you come to soon you could spend 5-10 years just trying to get your foot in the door.

Now before you worry about the area you are in, make sure to check for any college or university near you that might have some film students (maybe in Birmingham). You can be part of small films and learn a few things first. This could lead to better contacts in the UK too.  I know it seems weird to hear this but you are only a few hours from London and they do make movies there. That may seem some distance but keep in mind all of the UK would fit inside one state out of 50 here. Actors in the states are used to traveling for work. 

In fact in the South Eastern US, actors drive 3-10 hours to audition because the work is so spread out here. In California they drive and hour or two just to go a few miles (horrible traffic there), in NYC they travel by trains and subway and depending where they have to travel from it can take a few hours too.

I myself grew up in a state that had no movies and not a single acting class at that time (now they are a ton 20 years later). I did stage to start. I built a resume and finally got an agent. That is when I landed commercials and got the part on the soap opera. I was 20 and started doing stage at 12. It took me 8 years to get my foot in the door. Keep patience as your best friend and as Gregory Hines once said to me "It is those who will not be denied"...they make it. Don't let anyone deny you and work your way here, pay your dues and no one will be able to stop you.

Remember...I started in an area where no one had done it before. I know it can be done!

Michele

 


 

Michele Seidman offers private classes and consultations focusing on camera acting, cold reading and the business of show business. Private acting classes cost $30 per session. Consultations for individuals interested in acting or modeling, provide the proper information to enter the 'biz.'

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